Ethical question

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Ethical question

Post by Carlito » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:28 am

I decided to not perpetuate another recent thread started by the site’s court jester and so have created a new thread.

The conversation had moved to trafficking and I think this raises an interesting question - do we believe these BB Roms are trafficked but we choose to turn a blind eye to satisfy our (selfish) needs? Or do we believe they have come of their own free will and make it their own choice to offer BB?
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Re: Ethical question

Post by lordarunotai » Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:45 am

Given that they are free to come and go under EU freedom of movement agreements I would say that mostly they are here of their own free will, and are just after some quick cash. Having said that I dare say some are duped into situations of which they had little or no prior knowledge, and in such instances, given that none of these East Europeans are actually here illegally, all they need to do is to show up at some Police Station or the like and they will be given assistance.
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Re: Ethical question

Post by rothman » Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:15 am

Interesting subject and it has been debated on several threads in the past.

My belief and experience is that the vast majority are here to earn very good money that they would not be able to do in their own countries. That said, there are undoubtedly some who are coerced and a very few who are trafficked.

On the whole I am satisfied that the girls I see are doing the job willingly, although with Roms most of the time unenthusiastically.
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Re: Ethical question

Post by dan7373 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:20 am

A few years ago before I started doing bb I went to see a Rom in Cov. She was about 18-20 (good looking too), she was clearly unhappy with what she was doing and it was totally clear to me she was being trafficked and she was totally terrified. Obviously I didn’t go ahead with the meeting but still paid her so she didn’t get into trouble. I sat with her for 15 mins to kill time so she didn’t get beat up for losing a punter or something like that. She could not speak a word of English and was clearly being drugged up to the point she could barely stand. When I left I reported this to the Police (anonymously). It turned out she was being trafficked along with numerous other girls from the same house and it was widely reported in the local paper some weeks later. I am so glad I did it. I don’t have a problem seeing working girls but if I believe they are not doing it voluntarily I will report it. They may sell sex for a living which to me is fine but I believe they should be doing it voluntarily.
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Re: Ethical question

Post by Carlito » Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:01 pm

I wonder how you can tell? The house with all the Roms seems a strange set up to me. That day when they were all asleep and I had woken them up - not 30 minutes before I spoken to a girl about the one I wanted to see, then again 5 minutes before and then after I’d parked. All the time the (different) girls I spoke to were awake and lucid, but then when I knocked on the door they’re all asleep.
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Re: Ethical question

Post by Highlander » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:17 pm

dan7373 wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:20 am
A few years ago before I started doing bb I went to see a Rom in Cov. She was about 18-20 (good looking too), she was clearly unhappy with what she was doing and it was totally clear to me she was being trafficked and she was totally terrified. Obviously I didn’t go ahead with the meeting but still paid her so she didn’t get into trouble. I sat with her for 15 mins to kill time so she didn’t get beat up for losing a punter or something like that. She could not speak a word of English and was clearly being drugged up to the point she could barely stand. When I left I reported this to the Police (anonymously). It turned out she was being trafficked along with numerous other girls from the same house and it was widely reported in the local paper some weeks later. I am so glad I did it. I don’t have a problem seeing working girls but if I believe they are not doing it voluntarily I will report it. They may sell sex for a living which to me is fine but I believe they should be doing it voluntarily.
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Re: Ethical question

Post by Highlander » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:24 pm

dan7373 wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:20 am
A few years ago before I started doing bb I went to see a Rom in Cov. She was about 18-20 (good looking too), she was clearly unhappy with what she was doing and it was totally clear to me she was being trafficked and she was totally terrified. Obviously I didn’t go ahead with the meeting but still paid her so she didn’t get into trouble. I sat with her for 15 mins to kill time so she didn’t get beat up for losing a punter or something like that. She could not speak a word of English and was clearly being drugged up to the point she could barely stand. When I left I reported this to the Police (anonymously). It turned out she was being trafficked along with numerous other girls from the same house and it was widely reported in the local paper some weeks later. I am so glad I did it. I don’t have a problem seeing working girls but if I believe they are not doing it voluntarily I will report it. They may sell sex for a living which to me is fine but I believe they should be doing it voluntarily.
This is why I'm so that we're leaving the dreaded EU. The notion of a borderless Europe with everyone living in perfect harmony was and is an unrealistic fairy tale, which would ultimately lead all its member states to hell.

Strict and tight border controls are more important now than ever before, now that we've got the corona virus to deal with.
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Re: Ethical question

Post by Cuntlover » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:54 pm

its not border control that prevents corona virus entering...its letting infected people in. that single case will eventually spread to millions.
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Re: Ethical question

Post by Brandonpete1952 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:48 am

Over last few years I've enjoyed carnal pleasures from many of the ROMS of Vine St then Widdrington Rd,then back to Vine St girls...especially the Punters Marmite girl Elena...When they were originally in Vine St,if I couldn't see Elena,I obviously see who ever was available..a couple of times i saw a Non BBer called Michelle (very attractive)and another called Freya...moving on...When They were at Widdrington (some 2 yrs later) I asked Elena if Michelle and Freya were still around.."No,they've got a proper jobs". So I'm not sure about the slavery bit,in their case anyway..but it does go on...and if you look at the photo's of the girls on AW and especially Viva St...some of their faces show it all..but a lot of use that use Roms are used to that sullen look.
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